Episode #85: The Art of Expansion with Rebecca Thorne

Intro (00:01): When you give smart women a five-year plan, simple business strategies and a positive mindset. It's amazing how fast your business can grow. Welcome to the fast track woman podcast with your host and business strategist, Terra Bohlmann. She helps women business owners stop winging it and board the fast track to success. When she's not making high flying dreams, the reality you can find her traveling to random destinations, desperately tracking down Chanel, broaches, or sipping overpriced coffee drinks. Her purpose in life is to help you build a profitable first-class business, smooth out the bumpy ride, and finally have more time, energy and freedom. So buckle your seatbelt because this episode of the fast track woman takes off right now.

Terra Bohlmann (00:52): Welcome back to the fast track woman. I am your host, Terra Bohlmann. And today I have an amazing guest for you.

Terra Bohlmann (01:01): Let me introduce Rebecca because she deserves all the respect. So I want to read her former formal bio. So you know exactly what a powerhouse she is. So Rebecca Thorne is an intuitive entrepreneur energy healer and founder of the art of expansion, a company focused on supporting others to create their best life. Over the past seven years, Rebecca has passionately worked with clients from around the globe to eliminate emotional blocks and cultivate personal joy using techniques that turn years of therapy into a session or two, she developed her signature mind, body spirit, energy framework by drawing upon her wealth of life experience and specialized training as a licensed clinical social worker, a board certified coach and a certified neuro emotional technique practitioner, a proud mother and member of the sandwich generation. Rebecca currently lives in Tampa, Florida with her husband, a few teenagers and her dog, Olivia Pope, her website is the art of expansion.com and I invite you to visit it and check her out. So please join me in welcoming Rebecca Thorne. How

Rebecca Thorne (02:16): Are you, Rebecca? Hi Terra. Thank

Rebecca Thorne (02:18): You so much for having me. I'm so excited and I'm so honored

Terra Bohlmann (02:23): Happy to have you. And we were doing pre-talk prior to the show recording and we both said we should have recorded some of that.

Rebecca Thorne (02:31): That's good stuff. And I always feel bad like

Terra Bohlmann (02:34): Right when we get to the recording part, cause it's like, oh, we've already had such amazing conversation about things. So yeah. So tell us, so your thing is really helping women entrepreneurs be able to mitigate stress and get over this concept of being busy. Can you share with us you know, in your experience, what, what is driving stress, the roof for women entrepreneurs and making it so that their heads are just spinning all the time? Yeah.

Rebecca Thorne (03:07): Yeah. That's a great question. And you know I always tell people that we've, as a society, we've become okay with stress. Oh, I'm just stressed it's okay. And I think us accepting it at that level for all these, even the generations makes it sort of okay, that we're there, you know, but for me, I'm not okay with that and I fought back against it and I said, okay, where's my happiness. Because if I'm stressed, I'm might be paralyzed. I might be running somewhere, you know, I might be avoiding where I want to be. And so I really changed my life in my late forties to find my happiness. And I discovered that there were things that I just didn't know about and weren't taught. And a lot of it's around energy as being energetic beings are subtle energies and meridians are shock. Rose emotionality became being connected to our higher self to spirit. And I know those all sound of like, maybe they're cliche-ish to you, but that's not how I work with them. That's just my communication tool with you to figure it out. So you don't have to be stressed. That's my message. You do not have to do that and I can help you figure

Terra Bohlmann (04:19): That out. Perfect. So what are some of the things that you're seeing, especially like working with women who are running their own business, as well as raising a family and doing all the things and whatnot, what are some warning signs that you can tell our listeners? Like if this is happening to, you know, your it's okay, but it's also, you have the power to do something about it. What are some things that would be, you know, before you start working with a woman, you know, what are some things that are happening for her that are really popping up?

Rebecca Thorne (04:53): Well, usually people, women are just they just don't have time. You know, they feel like they don't have time in their life. They feel like maybe they're not handling the situations correctly. They're not saying the right things, their relationship with their spouse is, you know, kind of Rocky and they feel like it's their fault. They try to do all the right things. They can't think of anything else to do to solve the problem. You know, when they come to me, they feel like their problems are unsolvable, but there's a part of them inside that knows they don't want to live in that space. That knows it can be better. They're just kind of out of ideas because they've used all the cultural training ideas, you know, be kind, you know, use your brain. Did you think it through, did you make the lists, you know, did you check that idea out? You know, we're always taught to check with up here when really the truth is it's in our heart, our intuition, our highest self or happiness is going inside and within our heart. So they're trying to figure it out.

Terra Bohlmann (05:56): Yes, absolutely. I mean, and there probably there's this level of, I would imagine of I'm a psychotic person about self care. Like everyone of my clients, we do weekly accountability. One of the things I always have to check in on is what have they done for self care, because you're always the last to serve yourself and you're trying to do it for everyone else. And then you're jeopardizing your, your health and your sanity and, and whatnot. So I'm a big advocate of self-care. Is that something, do you see a lack of that happening with yeah. That's

Rebecca Thorne (06:31): Great that you do that. That's perfect because that's the last thing that we take care of as ourselves. Yeah. So actually I just put together like an Oracle card deck, I'm getting ready to print up an offer and it's all about self care techniques. And so you can shuffle it like an Oracle deck and then you can pick out the one that rises up, you know, that you connect to, that you should do. So it's always good to plan ahead. I always teach my clients when you get in that space to plan ahead and think, okay, if I get in that space that not feel good, that rush rush, what are three possible things I can do with that? Should I go take a walk? Should I get in a salt bath? Should I look at, you know, pet my dog or look at old pictures that like plan ahead.

Rebecca Thorne (07:19): Because honestly the truth is this is kind of like counter intuitive for most people. But when you when you take time for yourself, even 10, 15 minutes, you actually are way more productive because you're, you're, you're not responding to the outside demands all the time. You're checking in with yourself and going, oh, this is how I'm going to do it. When you create space, it opens up your creativity year, more natural ways of doing it. And then you're going to feel better. It's you can actually have a lot of fun working and creating and doing what your thing is in life and expanding other people. It should be fun if you're not having fun. You've got some inner work to be doing because that's our God-given right. In my opinion, joy.

Terra Bohlmann (08:08): Oh, so good. There was so much goodness about everything you just said. I mean, you know, it's one of these and I think a lot of the time, especially women who are on the fast track, you know, they think self care has to take a lot of time and it has to be, you know, it costs money because they relate self care to going and getting a massage or getting my nails done or, you know, whatever. And it, and it could be as simple as I love that you said, pet your dog, right. And have some of those things in your tool belt. So when that trigger happens, you know what to do versus getting caught up in it. And we were talking on the pre-show about some things and, you know, and I had said that, you know, I have eliminated so much stress out of my own life clearing and whatnot over the last year. And when you feel like you're going to start getting sucked back into whether it's family drama or, you know, clients or this or that, it's like, you don't want to go back there again because it's so great on the other side. Yes. Right.

Rebecca Thorne (09:10): And so what's really important about it is it's not just putting on your shoes and going, okay, I'm going for a walk for 10 minutes ago now, out there and thinking about your to-do list. Right. So I always teach everybody. I say, okay, listen, when you take that time, it's all about intention in the moment. Right. You know, and that's a really hard thing to grab onto when you've got 75 things going around in your brain. So for that, whatever time you have 10 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it is, I want you to just take a breath and just tell all that stuff to just go wait out by the front door, all that 75 things, all the whatever's going on thinking you've got to go get the kids at three o'clock and you only have two hours left, whatever it is, put it outside the door because I promise you it'll be there when you get back. Yeah. What it does is then you can just you're you're giving your mind a release and then you can say, okay the intention for this next 15 minutes is I'm just going to walk. And so I want you to walk. I want you to feel the ground hitting under your feet. I want you to breathe. We, I don't know about you, but I am a big offender of not breathing. Good enough.

Terra Bohlmann (10:23): Deep enough. Like that is a tough one.

Rebecca Thorne (10:26): It's oh gosh. It's such a, an important thing to do too. So just really for that 10 or 15 minutes breathe, but really notice things. You will see things that you've never noticed. And if those little thoughts come back in, just shoo them away, like a little butterfly, they're like, oh, oh no, not right now. So it's really staying present with yourself in that 10 or 15 minutes. And I'll tell you the other side of that, that stuff at the door it'll come back, but it really doesn't feel so bad. It doesn't have the hold on you that it had beforehand and you will feel better. And what's the point, the point is feeling good. Right. We all want to feel good. We're just trying to figure it out.

Terra Bohlmann (11:14): Yeah, absolutely. Do you have a strategy? So around, you know, when a woman entrepreneurs starting to feel that, you know, the stress is happening, the kids, you know, do this, the, you know, mine, when they get off the bus, they love to run and like tell me something. And sometimes I'm recording a podcast or I'm working with a client or, you know, and I'm like, you know, I love being home. I love working from home because I I'm there for them in that sense. But you know, I've also had to be okay with putting boundaries around, you know, he did it yesterday. Lance was like, he was so excited. He got a letter for like, he's going to be in a he's getting an award for it, but he doesn't know what. And so it's this whole Ric reception it's like, but I was so like, I had one final email to send, to be done with work.

Terra Bohlmann (12:01): And so I was so focused, like, let me just be done. And then I'll be a hundred percent present with you. So I was just like, honey, this all sounds amazing. We give me five minutes so I can finish up this email so I can be done. And I'll be a hundred percent present with you. And he's now like at first when I would do that kind of stuff, they'd kind of like get a little, you know, sometimes teary-eyed like, now he's like, oh yeah, okay. Sorry. You know, and it's just about having that boundary around things. But I mean, from a, you know, what are some tools and strategies that you can recommend that when, you know, a woman is just gets in that moment where it's like, Ooh, like the dog's barking, the kids need something. The washer just went off, you're trying to like finish something for work. And you know, you've got all those things going and that stress is coming in to the head and the journal starts running faster on the wheel, as you say it. Right. You know, what are some strategies for them? Yeah.

Rebecca Thorne (12:56): Yeah. So the first thing you did was communicate, you said you told him, yes. It's really important to communicate. And I think sometimes as, especially as a woman we feel like we have to handle it all. So we just do it. I mean, how many times in your life do you just handle it and take care of it? And probably that one or two times you let somebody else do it, they mess it up, you know? And it's like, okay, forget it. Nobody else is making dinner. Right. Or whatever. The horrible thing is that you now have taken full ownership on. So I think the most important things to communicate and you have to understand too, when you start communicating something new, that it's going to be a surprise for people around you, there you're changing and shifting your energy, you're changing and shifting your role.

Rebecca Thorne (13:41): And they got to figure it out because it changes for them too. You know, we're all connected, we're all connected. So one of the things I like to teach people to do too, is to get a mantra, a beautiful thing about mantras. Is it you, you're not going to communicate effectively. If you think you've got to handle it all and you feel stressed out, right. So you've got to get into yourself first and take a breath and create a little bit of space to make a change. So what you do is you come up with a mantra that like one of the mantras I used over time, because I had a lot of sandwich generation kind of stuff going on with my parents and whatnot. And I had a lot of worry and I had some fear and, you know, wondering. And so I always were, I always said to myself, everything always works out for me.

Rebecca Thorne (14:30): Yeah. So when I got really stressed out or, you know, I got that phone call that my dad broke out of the place and he's walking down Hillsborough avenue and they're with him, come on over here, Rebecca, and help us get them back in and you know, crazy stuff. I would just start P I w I planned ahead of time. So I would pull up that everything always works out for me. And I would say it 20 times in a row, but I would focus that intention. Right. What I talked about before, I would focus that intention on everything always works out for me. And maybe I would put the laundry away and then I go handle, or I would try to stop worrying about, you know, whatever was going on. And it just centered me enough to take a breath and then communicate and then decide, you know, what, what would serve you now?

Rebecca Thorne (15:17): Right. Right. People will adjust. See the thing the key is, and we're not taught this. So the key is for you to be you all the time, because, and the best that you can, because when you're that, then it allows everybody else around you to be them. It gives them the opportunity to experience. So you're not taking care of their feelings or their emotions, you know, they're not leaning on you and you're not feeling that pressure. And so then they get to evolve and expand just like you're evolving, expanding. And I'm telling you, I've had both sides of that in a family situation that I'm on my second marriage, it's night and day difference. It is so much more fun when I finally figured that stuff out in a relationship than what it used to be, which was, I was carrying all this stuff all the time, you know? Cause I thought that's what I was supposed to be doing. And it was a disservice to everybody. Yeah,

Terra Bohlmann (16:17): Absolutely. I mean, people, they say all the time, like what are like your kids? Like, they're just different. They're this and that. And I'm like from day one, my husband and I agreed that we're going to teach our children to do themselves. We'll teach them. I spend more time. This is how you make your own toast. You know? And they're three years old making their toe is don't touch it because it's hot. This and that. This is, you know, and you hit this button, then you, you know, and it's not just, oh, I get to eat the toast. It's like, okay. And then you put away the, you know, put the plate in the sink and you know, you really like step them through it and then you let them do it. And they're amazing beings they will want, they want people want to self-serve I think the day, and I know I have many friends that they give that gives them purpose to be able to do that.

Terra Bohlmann (17:08): So they're just shocked, like your kids make their own breakfast. I mean, they're 11 now. Of course they do. But like even at a young age, because why would I want to add to my plate when they're fully capable of doing it? Right. So little things like that that we can do. Like, what else can we get off our plate? Because right. They're all spinning, you know, our food's falling over the plate at this point. And our whole thing is we want that white space. And you know, these strategies that Rebecca is giving, I mean, they're, they're golden to be able to yeah. You know, hit the pause button, take a deep breath. You're not reacting. You're not screaming. You're just getting internal communicate. I mean, these are simple things, but we so often forget it when we're in that stressful situation. Yeah. Right.

Rebecca Thorne (17:57): Or sometimes, or sometimes too, like, this is what, this is one of my big irks in life. Okay. And I yell at the TV for this one too, or for other, or I listen to somebody saying, they're an expert on something. Nobody tells you how to do it. Right. It's the D the details of how you do it. That's what, that's why I put together these cards, because it's the details and how to do it, you know, set intention, you know, take a break, that kind of thing. And I just want to jump back to, it sounds like you're a Montessori mom. I sent my kids.

Terra Bohlmann (18:29): All of them were, yeah. I

Rebecca Thorne (18:31): Sent my girls to Montessori to, oh yeah. They did all sweeping with a little brooms. And

Terra Bohlmann (18:37): I have three boys. My oldest is getting well he's by the time this airs, he's going to be at the Colorado school of mines and Colorado, and I'm in Texas and it's ice. And then my twin boys are 11. So I have three boys and I always love the Montessori, like updates, or like your son is just, he loves playing with the pots and the pans and the playing pretend cook. And, and I was just like, that's like so cool that they have these flexible opportunities to actually step into things. And all three of my boys now are very stem kids. Like I'm telling you this, this isn't, this isn't is kind of a

Rebecca Thorne (19:18): For Montessori. Please send your kids to Montessori. It's so true.

Rebecca Thorne (19:22): It's so true because they teach them how to think. Yeah. That's what I loved about it. You know, we had moved a lot when my girls were younger and we moved to a really good school system in Atlanta and top school system. And I just couldn't put them behind a desk because that's just not how we operated. And there's nothing against any of that. It just wasn't my vibe. Right. And so, you know, Montessori, it gives them if they're, you know, since soar, whatever their sensorial gift is, they get to learn that way. And so even if you can't send your kids to Montessori, you can certainly create opportunities in your home, around it and parent for that to give them those opportunities. Yeah. Cause it's tough. Yeah.

Terra Bohlmann (20:05): Because as we can do it, whether it's with, you know, your kids, your family your whatever, it's like the more you can teach people how to mitigate stress and have these other things and free thinking and, you know, work in a way that really brings you true. Like you say, happiness, peace, love joy. Then you're breaking that generational curse almost around how everyone else keeps bringing stress forward. Like you said earlier, it's like stress is just, oh, it's just so common. I mean, isn't this what motherhood is? Isn't this what being a woman entrepreneurs is, no, it doesn't have to be. And we have to break that. And there's so many techniques and, you know, check out Rebecca's website, the art of expansion.com. And yeah, she's amazing at being able to clear this stuff, because if we don't clear inside, it's going to manifest and show up in our business. You know, we're not going to get the results we want are, like you said, our relationships, you know, things with our kids, our marriage, our life, and with ourself. And so we have tools now and this society to be able to clear all this crap from our head. So why not do it? It's the best gift you can give yourself.

Rebecca Thorne (21:18): Yeah. And the other thing too, is we're as humans, we're not meant to operate alone and separately. We were not meant to have all the answers, energetically, we're all connected. And so what I'm good at, you know, like my daughter downstairs was just telling me her friend's going to school to become a orthodontist. I'm like, I'd be horrible at that. I'm like, and I told her, I said, well, thank goodness, because I don't want to do that. You know? So we all just stay in our lane and we, and we do what, what makes our heart happy? Right. We, we do what gives us joy. We do what feels like fun. How can I have fun today and make money? You know, that's a great thing to focus on. Right. We share with other people we're golden we're and, and we are figuring that out as a culture, we certainly are. And it's super exciting. So,

Terra Bohlmann (22:11): Yeah. And I love what you said about the, you know, orthodontist. It's kind of like, you know, for me, I do what I do and I've been doing business coaching for 10 years. I'm so addicted to the transformation that, that client, my clients get. And sometimes my even non-clients, if someone just comes to one of my live events and I have a big aha and it's a shift for them, I love it. That's why I do what I do. And in her case, her, her joy is maybe after, you know, being able to take the braces off and see that smile on that teenagers face that can you see, you know, their confidence just go, and that's the transformation that brings her joy. So if we could just all be in business to help give people transformations, like, is there any other greater thing that can happen in the world? I don't know.

Rebecca Thorne (22:57): So let's just do it, do it, just do it. I stress everybody. Do what makes them happy. Yeah. Awesome. Shorter work weeks. Absolutely.

Terra Bohlmann (23:07): Absolutely more vacations. Oh, right. I love it. So, you know, in, in transitioning here and, and moving towards, you know, wrapping up the art of expansion, so that is something that's really near and dear to you. Can you explain to our listeners, what does that mean to you? The art of expansion.

Rebecca Thorne (23:27): So funny. So when my husband and I got together we've been together four years now. He he's very Christian oriented and I'm very metaphysical oriented. And so I told him on our date, we had so much good energy, but I said, you know, honestly, I don't think it's going to work out because we just, our belief systems are so different. But then when we T he goes, hold on, now he's a big guy. He's like six, six. He goes, hold on. Now he goes, let's talk about this. So we're at dinner. I'm like, okay, cool. So we realized, we believe the same thing. And we was like, oh, we, we get to the same place. We just go our own route there. You know? And so it was a fabulous part of our relationship. So we came up with the same, I'm getting to your question.

Rebecca Thorne (24:16): So we came up with this saying, he said, it's one plus one equals five. Meaning he does him. I do me. And together we create something way beyond a two we're creating five together. So I originally named my company or I, I transitioned from Thorne counseling into the art of expansion, but in between it was one plus one equals five, the art of expansion. And then it was just as you know, it was just too much and whatever. And so anyway, so I then made it the art of expansion. And it's all about that. It's all about the, all the stuff we've been talking about, staying in your lane, doing what makes you happy, sharing it with other people, co collaborating, agreeing, or not agreeing, but when you're coming from your authentic self, right. You know, that's, that's the sharing. So, and it's not supposed to be perfect. We are supposed to create friction because if we didn't create friction, it would be like a bunch of Stepford wives. Maybe that's an old eight. No, I just made out, but everybody is so boring out there. You know, we'd all be the same. So we're meant to have differences because it gets our us thinking. It gets us feeling. Yeah. It tunes us in. So we then get to decide who we want to be. And what's true for us and not true for us. And then we just spark and go on and start shining.

Terra Bohlmann (25:43): Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's all about change. It's all about. And I'm like obsessed with creating new neurological connections. Like every time I do, I'm like, you know, that's an aha. You know, and it's like, Ooh, now my brain can wrap something different. And that's why I'm so fascinated. And I'm also a Gemini, which everyone's like, I've never met a Gemini, but I like you. I was like, thank you. Is that a compliment? Right. But like, I get how, you know, Gemini is, may come across. But at the end of the day, it's like, we're just, there's not that there's two sides, but sometimes it's just to me, like, I feel I'm so open to things. Right. My ha my dad was a lead singer of a rock band and super creative. My mom, you know, lives and in a small town and worked you know, has had as her business and just is very like localized.

Terra Bohlmann (26:35): And that makes her happy to be there where my dad, you know, I was like, where can I go next? You know, he used to brag about, he had like a little bag with just like swim trunks, a pair of underwear and a shirt, pants and socks, because anytime someone would want to, Hey, you want to go to Puerto Rico? Let's go. I don't even need to go home. So there's that gypsy soul meets, like, I lost the ability and stuff like that. So it's just, I just love people. And I'm so fascinated by all the different things. And I did used to beat myself up over it because I thought, well, what do you stand for Terra? Like, put your stake in the ground and, you know, are you just melding to what, like, whatever, you know, what the wind's going, but you know, now I'm like, that's part of the journey.

Terra Bohlmann (27:16): And that is truly what makes me happy because I mean, I know now if I don't have a trip or two on the calendar to look forward to, I feel like I can't breathe. If I don't even go somewhere new, like once a month, whether it's just driving a couple of hours to go to Austin, to deuce, I can't breathe. And it's like, you know, you've got to find these things about yourself and give yourself that gift. It's so cool. So I love that you said all that art of expansion thing, it's a movement. That's a movement. It's a movement. Yeah. I love it. I love it. That's so fantastic. So before I ask our final question, are you, will you let everyone know, how can they get in touch with you? How can they learn more? How can they see about what it's like to work with you? What where do you want them to go?

Rebecca Thorne (28:05): Yeah, just go to my website. Okay. The art of expansion.com. And you can write, you can reach out to me there. You can see what I have going on. I have a, I'm launching a new high level coaching program in the, in the fall later on, you know, so it's not up on the website yet, but just sign up on my list and you know, I'm on Instagram too. So I've, I haven't done a lot with that, but I'm getting ready to so

Terra Bohlmann (28:30): Good. Yeah. I mean, it's, that's what I love about Instagram. Are you at the art of expansion, are you at Rebecca Thorne?

Rebecca Thorne (28:37): Well, I have both, of course, because I do life complicated technically sometimes. So it's the.art dot of that or the art of expansion with dots in between. How's that?

Terra Bohlmann (28:51): Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Go connect with her. And that's what I think is so cool about Instagram is everyone's just a DM away, like, right. Like, I mean, and I checked Instagram multiple times a day, so it's like, there, there's such easy way to connect with people, ask questions, you know schedule a conversation like, but just don't stay stuck in your stress. Like it's not going to serve you. It's not moving your business forward. There are tools and strategies to help you get out of it. So that, so final question it's called, you know, the name of the podcast is the fast track woman. And what, what tip or strategy, or maybe a life lesson that you had that really helped you go faster in your own business? Like, what are some, what's your number one around helping a woman entrepreneur go faster?

Rebecca Thorne (29:46): Hmm. I guess my number one tip would be to slow down, which is so weird. Right. And then ironic. Yeah. And so I'm a, I'm an inpatient person. I always say, God is up there laughing at me. He's like, okay, let's give her a little impatience in there. And so it's just one of my life things. But I think the truth is when I do slow down, when my Gemini husband helps me see that I slow down I, it it gives space for what is meant to be the real stuff, the fun stuff to come in. So if I'm busy, busy, busy, trying to get it all done, which I spent 2020 basically doing, I didn't have any openings for new ideas of how to live life and express and share with people the way I'm designed to do. So now, when I slow down those inklings of inspiration come in and I create something really fabulous. And it's so much, it's like I'm having so much fun. So that's a great, oh, down connect with yourself. That's my son.

Terra Bohlmann (30:50): And I agree. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've given homework to clients that, you know, they have a troublesome customer that's causing them so much stress, so much drama, so demanding. And I'm like, and they're always the lowest paying customers. Right. And so I'm like, well, what happens if you just bless and release them? You want me to fire, fire my customer. Yeah. You need, you can give them a soft landing, give them a, you know, in the next 30 days, let me refer someone this and that. You don't have to be mean about it. But like every time, like, it's probably like, can you imagine getting homework from your business coach, by the time we talk, next time you need to have fired this customer. And every time it works, because absolutely let them go. And then that you've opened up space. Yep. Now you're like, oh, and then the next better customer comes, that's higher paying. So low maintenance can come into your life because you just didn't have, you didn't have space for it.

Rebecca Thorne (31:52): Marianne Williamson has a really great saying that a long time ago, I heard this on one of her talk. She said, when you have, when you have a station, a train station and that trains in the station, so she was using those relationships, but it's used for anything trained in the station that low paying customer, that customer, that takes a lot of your time up. There's no room for anyone else when you release that train. Yeah. Then there's space to allow in what needs to be there. And honestly, my experience is that that person already knows it's a bad fit all already now. Yeah. They're not surprised. And you're giving them a gift, you know? Cause you're being, you, you're being authentically true to yourself going, no, this doesn't feel good. This is not fun. Yup. Yup.

Terra Bohlmann (32:40): And instead, [inaudible] same thing with having a team member. That's not working out on your team or an employee or whatever, bless and release. Because like you said, they're feeling it too, and you're going to set them up so that they can have the next best fit job for them. So there'll be happier. Like, there's just, it's just all in reframing. Right. And sometimes we just need to have that permission. So if you're listening to this thing, oh, it's like, they're talking about insert customer name. Yeah. We are. Right. Sometimes it takes, you know, you have to push through that fear of like, you know, well, is anyone going to come back? How can I let go of that money? Or blah, blah, blah. Well, it's better. Things are waiting for you. I can promise you that. So yeah. So that's it so awesome.

Rebecca Thorne (33:25): It's such a joy. Yes. Enjoy.

Rebecca Thorne (33:28): Oh, I've had such a great time. So good to be here, honestly. Thank you.

Terra Bohlmann (33:32): No problem. So the art of expansion.com go check out Rebecca. And this has just been amazing. Thanks again. Thank you.

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